RMX-1000 Send / Return Delay / Phasing Problem
HI, I am running an up-to-date RMX-1000 with my Condesa Carmen V. When I turn on the send return with the rmx, even with no effects active, there is a slight delay in the return, causing phasing problems so it sounds light a very tight delay. This seems to indicate the RMX is returning the signal with a slight lag.
Here is a video I took of it, you can clearly hear the problem as I turn up and down one of the four sends as well as the return.
Please note this issue is present on BOTH send/return and Master settings on the RMX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYMAXiHJpo
Link to my mixer:
https://condesaelectronics.com/shop/carmen-v/
Condesa is an extremely reputable manufacturer using full discrete analog circuity, so I highly doubt the problem is the mixer, but I'm still open to hear other opinions. The a friend of mine with the same mixer says he's used Line6's Echo Park with no problems.
Thanks
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Nice mixer!
The RMX does inherently introduce some delay as it takes time for the signal to be converted (A>D), processed / effected, then converted again (D>A). The lag is quite minimal and we don't recommend DJs have a full dry AND full wet signal playing simultaneously to avoid noticing the lag.
Do your beautiful Condesa a favor and leave the RMX-1000 in the closet ;-)
Same Lagging problem but using Rane MP2015 Send/Return. Really Disappointed. If I don't fix it in 10 days I will send the unit back to the store under 30day's returning policy.
@Morvius > That's not a problem with the RMX, it's entirely how the Rane Send/Return functions. It's the same with Allen & Heath; their aux send system is not a 100% audio routing. Sorry!
@pulse then why do my tc electronic delay and strymon modulator work fine with 0 phase cancellation or delay? sounds like an RMX problem to me
Because of the wet/dry mix.
Surprising to me Pinoeer continues to sell an $800 "professional" effects unit that can't work in most mixers send/return loop. The only time I haven't heard it sound like complete garbage is when it's hooked up to a pioneer mixer
Tested the KaossPad KP3+ and it's working without any delay feedback. @pulse So the problem is not the send/return in the mixer! Is the RMX-1000 which is going back to the store tomorrow morning. Again disappointed by Pioneer products! First was a brand new CDJ-2000nxs2 which came with Startup error's right from the box :))
Hi everybody!! Will I have same A&H phase problem with a Denon mixer???
Best regards
Depends on their S/R loop implementation.
More importantly it depends on Pioneer's inexplicable decision (read: reliance on their mixers) to not offer a dry signal kill for mixers without selectable channel insert functions, i.e. 95% of all mixers
It doesn't work with my A&H xone43, I don't know what the problem is technically speaking, I'm a regular user who uses these devices as a hobby, I also don't want to be a God of technical knowledge. It would help me to know from your experience, with which mixers of other brands this product (RMX1000) works correctly using SEND/RETURN... for example, will it work with a denon x1700?
Greetings to all
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